Jiletler Gerçekten Kartuşlardan İyi mi?
#21
(16/06/2012, Saat: 14:50)Lord Sparhawk Adlı Kullanıcıdan Alıntı:
(16/06/2012, Saat: 14:40)_Olgun_ Adlı Kullanıcıdan Alıntı: Bugün bu yazıdaki yorumlar için 5 bıçaklı ile deneme yaptım..

Çok daha hızlı ve az tahrişli oldum.. Kalite olarak jiletin tekniğini kavramaktan dolayı 5 bıçaklı ile daha pürüzsüz oldum.

Şun bekleme süresindeyim. Şapı sürdüm.. 2 güne sivilce (kıl dönmesi olmuyor cildimde,sivilcede boyun bölgesi ve dudak kenarı) çıkmazsa, kartuşa bir şans daha verebilirim..

Komşum hız ve kalite konusunda jiletli makinelere göre daha iyi sonuç aldığını düşünüyorsan, jiletli makine kullanımında kusur olduğunu düşünüyorum. Futur, M*** 3 gibi makineleri hiçbir şekilde ne hız, ne konfor ne de nihai sonuç olarak karşılaştırılmamaları lazım ustura ya da jiletli makinelere göre. Eğer kullanıcıya fark az geliyorsa, kullanıcı bu gereçlerdeki tekniğini geliştirmelidir ki gerçek performanslarını görsün.

Teknik hatasına kesinlikle katılıyorum..
Bunu çözene kadar ,beceremeyip aynı yerden iki kere geçince tahriş kaçınılmaz oluyor.. 5 bıçak bence uçuk bir tarz olsada, uçları kesilmiş tekli permatik ve 3 bıçaklı alet jilete yakın kalite verir diyorum..


Bu arada köpük tüp değil, klasik arko ve türevlerini kullandım.. O kadar da atlamadım kartuş olayına Smile
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#22
(16/06/2012, Saat: 15:55)mancho Adlı Kullanıcıdan Alıntı: Başka bir konu da, aşağıdaki yazıdan bahsetmiştim ama bu konuya daha uygun.

Geo F Trumper's Jermyn Caddesi Şubesi müdürü ve baş berberi ünlü üstad Kamil Öztürk zamanında bir teste katılmış.

Bir gazeteciyi tıraş etmiş. Bir yarısını ustura ile, bir yarısını da Gillette M3 Power ile.

Gazetecinin ifadesine göre kartuşlu daha başarılı çıkmış bu karşılaştırmadan.

Aradan geçen süre de kartuşlular kendilerini daha da geliştirdi. En son Proglide modeli bence gayet başarılı.


Kartuş pahalı mı? Pahalı

Geleneksel daha mı keyifli? Evet

Ama kartuş daha iyi tıraş ediyor bence de.

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By Quentin Letts12:05AM BST 25 Jul 2004
This must be what it's like to be a mole when the lawn is being mown on Sunday morning: an approaching hum, looming vibrations, and the sound of rapid cutting. The machine hits a tricky patch and the note of its engine drops from a constant "brrrrr" to a snarlier "grrrchhh". Bang goes another troublesome tussock.
Except that I am not a mole. I am me, sitting in one of the dentist-style chairs at Geo F. Trumper, London barbers and perfumers since 1875. Above me stretches the agile form of Kamil Ozturk, 35, expert shaver and manager of Trumper's Jermyn Street branch.

Maestro Ozturk is cutting my Desperate Dan stubble down to size and he is using a wizard new razor, the battery-powered, wet-shave Gillette M3Power. No less a figure than David Beckham has been hired to promote this razor. We're talking the cutting edge, in fashion as well as hairy chins.
It is standard, nowadays, for razors to be given the sort of names once reserved for sports cars. Apart from Gillette's M***3 range, there is its Turbo Gel shaving ointment, the S***** E**** and the Schick Quattro. Varroom!

Such products seek dominance in a world razor market worth £3.75 billion a year. Razors, with their outrageous mark-ups, are big business. And the M3Power is this golden market's next big thing.
We have come to Trumper's to see if the M3Power is any good. Kamil Ozturk casts a professional eye over its blades and prepares our test. The right side of my bristly face is to be shaved with a Trumper's cut-throat razor ("We prefer to call it an open razor," murmurs Kamil). The left side will be mown by the M3Power. Comparisons can then be made.
Cut-throat first. My face is covered with a hot towel, before receiving a pungent rubbing as Kamil applies corral-pink "skin food". He pronounces my skin "baby-soft" (you're too kind) but with "stubborn, tough whiskers"

Splosh goes a thick, badger-style brush into a basin of hot water. Splop-plop it goes as it is flub-a-dubbed in rose-tinted shaving foam. Kamil lathers up one side of my bean and gets scraping with the disposable Wilkinson cut-throat.
Wilkinson - now there's a name. Wilkinson is Gillette's great rival in world shaving. The arrival of the £10.75 M3Power, which will be launched in Britain this autumn, will be the latest move in a long-running struggle for world shaving supremacy between these two companies. In a measure of how expensive the shaving market has become, eight blades for the M3Power will cost a painful £14.49 - no small wonder razors are now among the most heavily pilfered items in the retail trade.
The new razor, no bigger than the wet-shave razor I normally use, has been so crouched over by the R&D department at Gillette that it has an astonishing 62 patents on its inner gubbins. Its exterior is decorated an almost neon lime green. Promotional videos are decidedly futuristic.
Kamil's well-trained fingers straddle and stretch my jowls, each delicate prod and twang expunging another square inch of coarse facial hair.
This is the first cut-throat shave I have had at a barber's since one morning in Morocco in the early 1990s, when I was set upon by a kasbah demon whose razor blade did not seem to have been sharpened for several days. My discomfort was accentuated when a passing taxi ran over the foot of some unfortunate sitting on the pavement just outside the barber shop, leading said wretch to emit a high yelp of pain, causing my barber and his razor to jump, at which point it was my turn to yell in agony after enduring a severe nick to the gills.
Trumper's, happily, is a more professional affair. Kamil's cut-throat is particularly effective at removing those obstinate areas just under the nose and lower lip. Yet the process draws a few smidgens of blood. Out comes a styptic pencil. Ouch! That stings.
We turn to the M3Power. It is described as "the world's first Micro-Power razor" (back to the car-speak) and thanks to those 62 patents its battery-powered blades pulsate more than 200 times a second. The idea is that the movement lifts hairs up and away from the skin. The razor is also fitted with something called an Indicator Lubrastrip, which has been infused with vitamin E and aloe - said to be good for the skin.
Kamil handles the device gingerly to start. It's a bit like driving a car for the first time, I suppose. As he works, he emits the occasional "hmmmn" and "ahhhh" of discovery and vague approval. It's most unlike a traditional electric shaver, which is an entirely dry process. To all purposes this is a full wet shave - it's just that the blades are pulsating and whirring at high speed.
The noise of its little motor is disconcertingly like the whine of a mosquito. Yet the vibrations are not unpleasant, though some might find them a little ticklish. As the M3Power harvests long sweeps of cream-lathered stubble, it certainly seems to be doing the job. The one drawback is that the much-vaunted Indicator Lubrastrip has left a slight, sticky substance on my skin. It is nothing more than the residue of a slightly phlegmy blackbird's cough, but it is not entirely pleasant. One of Trumper's ice-cold towels soon removes it.
Click goes the button in Kamil's hand, and the M3Power's turbines fall silent. Job done. Or nearly. He has to produce the old cut-throat to tidy up some of the nooks and crannies that the lawn-mower was unable to reach.
When it comes to cheek-by-cheek comparisons, the newcomer has done well. The left side of my face, shaved by pulsating Micro-Power, is glistening. I look as shiny-faced as an American merchant banker.
My right cheek, shaved by the cut-throat, is indisputably less perfect. It has a slightly grainy texture. Is this a problem? Well, personally, I hate to look too groomed.
Eight hours later, as I write this, an update. My right cheek (cut-throat side) is just starting to sprout a bed of cress in its early stages. My left cheek (M3Powered) remains soft and free of hair. Plainly, Gillette's new chin mower is an ingenious piece of kit. But there's a worry. Is it going to leave us English men just a touch too smooth for our own liking?


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1...n-get.html



hocam bence reklam amaçlı bir haber Smile
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#23
(18/06/2012, Saat: 11:32)mriza1 Adlı Kullanıcıdan Alıntı:
(16/06/2012, Saat: 15:55)mancho Adlı Kullanıcıdan Alıntı: Başka bir konu da, aşağıdaki yazıdan bahsetmiştim ama bu konuya daha uygun.

Geo F Trumper's Jermyn Caddesi Şubesi müdürü ve baş berberi ünlü üstad Kamil Öztürk zamanında bir teste katılmış.

Bir gazeteciyi tıraş etmiş. Bir yarısını ustura ile, bir yarısını da Gillette M3 Power ile.

Gazetecinin ifadesine göre kartuşlu daha başarılı çıkmış bu karşılaştırmadan.

Aradan geçen süre de kartuşlular kendilerini daha da geliştirdi. En son Proglide modeli bence gayet başarılı.


Kartuş pahalı mı? Pahalı

Geleneksel daha mı keyifli? Evet

Ama kartuş daha iyi tıraş ediyor bence de.

news-graphics-2004-_575885a.jpg

news-graphics-2004-_575886a.jpg

By Quentin Letts12:05AM BST 25 Jul 2004
This must be what it's like to be a mole when the lawn is being mown on Sunday morning: an approaching hum, looming vibrations, and the sound of rapid cutting. The machine hits a tricky patch and the note of its engine drops from a constant "brrrrr" to a snarlier "grrrchhh". Bang goes another troublesome tussock.
Except that I am not a mole. I am me, sitting in one of the dentist-style chairs at Geo F. Trumper, London barbers and perfumers since 1875. Above me stretches the agile form of Kamil Ozturk, 35, expert shaver and manager of Trumper's Jermyn Street branch.

Maestro Ozturk is cutting my Desperate Dan stubble down to size and he is using a wizard new razor, the battery-powered, wet-shave Gillette M3Power. No less a figure than David Beckham has been hired to promote this razor. We're talking the cutting edge, in fashion as well as hairy chins.
It is standard, nowadays, for razors to be given the sort of names once reserved for sports cars. Apart from Gillette's M***3 range, there is its Turbo Gel shaving ointment, the S***** E**** and the Schick Quattro. Varroom!

Such products seek dominance in a world razor market worth £3.75 billion a year. Razors, with their outrageous mark-ups, are big business. And the M3Power is this golden market's next big thing.
We have come to Trumper's to see if the M3Power is any good. Kamil Ozturk casts a professional eye over its blades and prepares our test. The right side of my bristly face is to be shaved with a Trumper's cut-throat razor ("We prefer to call it an open razor," murmurs Kamil). The left side will be mown by the M3Power. Comparisons can then be made.
Cut-throat first. My face is covered with a hot towel, before receiving a pungent rubbing as Kamil applies corral-pink "skin food". He pronounces my skin "baby-soft" (you're too kind) but with "stubborn, tough whiskers"

Splosh goes a thick, badger-style brush into a basin of hot water. Splop-plop it goes as it is flub-a-dubbed in rose-tinted shaving foam. Kamil lathers up one side of my bean and gets scraping with the disposable Wilkinson cut-throat.
Wilkinson - now there's a name. Wilkinson is Gillette's great rival in world shaving. The arrival of the £10.75 M3Power, which will be launched in Britain this autumn, will be the latest move in a long-running struggle for world shaving supremacy between these two companies. In a measure of how expensive the shaving market has become, eight blades for the M3Power will cost a painful £14.49 - no small wonder razors are now among the most heavily pilfered items in the retail trade.
The new razor, no bigger than the wet-shave razor I normally use, has been so crouched over by the R&D department at Gillette that it has an astonishing 62 patents on its inner gubbins. Its exterior is decorated an almost neon lime green. Promotional videos are decidedly futuristic.
Kamil's well-trained fingers straddle and stretch my jowls, each delicate prod and twang expunging another square inch of coarse facial hair.
This is the first cut-throat shave I have had at a barber's since one morning in Morocco in the early 1990s, when I was set upon by a kasbah demon whose razor blade did not seem to have been sharpened for several days. My discomfort was accentuated when a passing taxi ran over the foot of some unfortunate sitting on the pavement just outside the barber shop, leading said wretch to emit a high yelp of pain, causing my barber and his razor to jump, at which point it was my turn to yell in agony after enduring a severe nick to the gills.
Trumper's, happily, is a more professional affair. Kamil's cut-throat is particularly effective at removing those obstinate areas just under the nose and lower lip. Yet the process draws a few smidgens of blood. Out comes a styptic pencil. Ouch! That stings.
We turn to the M3Power. It is described as "the world's first Micro-Power razor" (back to the car-speak) and thanks to those 62 patents its battery-powered blades pulsate more than 200 times a second. The idea is that the movement lifts hairs up and away from the skin. The razor is also fitted with something called an Indicator Lubrastrip, which has been infused with vitamin E and aloe - said to be good for the skin.
Kamil handles the device gingerly to start. It's a bit like driving a car for the first time, I suppose. As he works, he emits the occasional "hmmmn" and "ahhhh" of discovery and vague approval. It's most unlike a traditional electric shaver, which is an entirely dry process. To all purposes this is a full wet shave - it's just that the blades are pulsating and whirring at high speed.
The noise of its little motor is disconcertingly like the whine of a mosquito. Yet the vibrations are not unpleasant, though some might find them a little ticklish. As the M3Power harvests long sweeps of cream-lathered stubble, it certainly seems to be doing the job. The one drawback is that the much-vaunted Indicator Lubrastrip has left a slight, sticky substance on my skin. It is nothing more than the residue of a slightly phlegmy blackbird's cough, but it is not entirely pleasant. One of Trumper's ice-cold towels soon removes it.
Click goes the button in Kamil's hand, and the M3Power's turbines fall silent. Job done. Or nearly. He has to produce the old cut-throat to tidy up some of the nooks and crannies that the lawn-mower was unable to reach.
When it comes to cheek-by-cheek comparisons, the newcomer has done well. The left side of my face, shaved by pulsating Micro-Power, is glistening. I look as shiny-faced as an American merchant banker.
My right cheek, shaved by the cut-throat, is indisputably less perfect. It has a slightly grainy texture. Is this a problem? Well, personally, I hate to look too groomed.
Eight hours later, as I write this, an update. My right cheek (cut-throat side) is just starting to sprout a bed of cress in its early stages. My left cheek (M3Powered) remains soft and free of hair. Plainly, Gillette's new chin mower is an ingenious piece of kit. But there's a worry. Is it going to leave us English men just a touch too smooth for our own liking?


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1...n-get.html



hocam bence reklam amaçlı bir haber Smile

Ben de aynı fikirdeyim, ben de mi reklam yapıyorumWink
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#24
Alıntı:Ben de aynı fikirdeyim, ben de mi reklam yapıyorumWink

yok hocam estağfirullah Smile ben o gazetecinin yorumu için söyledim ama kartuşlu makineler gerçekten temiz almıyor benim görüşüme göre
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#25
ilk tıraş boyun bölgem hariç iyi oluyordu. boynumu istisnasız her tıraşta kanatıyordu. tek perde tıraş olarak bir kartuş bir ay yetiyordu zorlayarak. ama parasını haketmiyor bence. o yüzden elektrikliye geri dönüş yapmıştım.
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#26
Mancho ya da İçimizdeki Kartuşçu' nunBig Grin bu düşündürücü başlığı nedeniyle dolabın derinliklerine gönderdiğim Mak3'ü epey zaman sonra yeniden elime aldım. Sıfır bir kartuş taktım ve tıraş olmaya karar verdim.
Sonuç:
Bildiğiniz kesmiyor, yoluyor ve canımı acıtıyordu üstelik sıfır kartuş takmama rağmen. Sakallarıma ne olmuş böyle dedimBig Grin Bu sertliği indirme görevini Mak3ü bırakıp astra jiletime devrettim Smile

Hakikaten arkadaşlar bir deneyin tekrardan eski alışkanlığınızı, acaba sakallar etki/tepki derken çok mu sertleşti...
Hiç bir şey ummuyorum,
hiç bir şeyden korkmuyorum,
özgürüm..
Zorba
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#27
(25/06/2012, Saat: 02:18)zorba58 Adlı Kullanıcıdan Alıntı: Mancho ya da İçimizdeki Kartuşçu' nunBig Grin bu düşündürücü başlığı nedeniyle dolabın derinliklerine gönderdiğim Mak3'ü epey zaman sonra yeniden elime aldım. Sıfır bir kartuş taktım ve tıraş olmaya karar verdim.
Sonuç:
Bildiğiniz kesmiyor, yoluyor ve canımı acıtıyordu üstelik sıfır kartuş takmama rağmen. Sakallarıma ne olmuş böyle dedimBig Grin Bu sertliği indirme görevini Mak3ü bırakıp astra jiletime devrettim Smile

Hakikaten arkadaşlar bir deneyin tekrardan eski alışkanlığınızı, acaba sakallar etki/tepki derken çok mu sertleşti...
8li 8li
migros kampanyalarından 20 liraya aldıklarımı
noel baba gibi dağıtmamış olsaydım
birkez daha deneyebilirdim Smile

ama artık zor Smile
Bir de böyle düşün - Büyük Hilmi
WWW
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#28
(25/06/2012, Saat: 02:23)McOrco Adlı Kullanıcıdan Alıntı:
(25/06/2012, Saat: 02:18)zorba58 Adlı Kullanıcıdan Alıntı: Mancho ya da İçimizdeki Kartuşçu' nunBig Grin bu düşündürücü başlığı nedeniyle dolabın derinliklerine gönderdiğim Mak3'ü epey zaman sonra yeniden elime aldım. Sıfır bir kartuş taktım ve tıraş olmaya karar verdim.
Sonuç:
Bildiğiniz kesmiyor, yoluyor ve canımı acıtıyordu üstelik sıfır kartuş takmama rağmen. Sakallarıma ne olmuş böyle dedimBig Grin Bu sertliği indirme görevini Mak3ü bırakıp astra jiletime devrettim Smile

Hakikaten arkadaşlar bir deneyin tekrardan eski alışkanlığınızı, acaba sakallar etki/tepki derken çok mu sertleşti...
8li 8li
migros kampanyalarından 20 liraya aldıklarımı
noel baba gibi dağıtmamış olsaydım
birkez daha deneyebilirdim Smile

ama artık zor Smile

şaka bir tarafa, geçen ay shark ve ws çıtır çıtır kesiyordu,şimdi perma,astra 2 tıraş ancak bic zorlasan 2 tıraş
galiba jiletler sakalları sertleştiriyor yada ben 39 yaş olarak yaşlılık döngüsüne girdim ''homosapien kartlaşma dönemi'' Cool
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#29
(25/06/2012, Saat: 02:32)ihtilaf Adlı Kullanıcıdan Alıntı: şaka bir tarafa, geçen ay shark ve ws çıtır çıtır kesiyordu,şimdi perma,astra 2 tıraş ancak bic zorlasan 2 tıraş
galiba jiletler sakalları sertleştiriyor yada ben 39 yaş olarak yaşlılık döngüsüne girdim ''homosapien kartlaşma dönemi'' Cool

jileti keskinleştirmek yerine
aleti agresifleştirmeyi deneyin

jilet sarf malzemesi sürekli almanız gerekiyor
agrasif makine daha ekonomik ve sadece birkere ödüyorsunuz Smile

normalde pek kesmeyen oldukça sakal bırakan shark ile
futuru beraber kulanınca 2 tıraş sorunsuz idare ediyor
Bir de böyle düşün - Büyük Hilmi
WWW
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#30
(25/06/2012, Saat: 02:36)McOrco Adlı Kullanıcıdan Alıntı:
(25/06/2012, Saat: 02:32)ihtilaf Adlı Kullanıcıdan Alıntı: şaka bir tarafa, geçen ay shark ve ws çıtır çıtır kesiyordu,şimdi perma,astra 2 tıraş ancak bic zorlasan 2 tıraş
galiba jiletler sakalları sertleştiriyor yada ben 39 yaş olarak yaşlılık döngüsüne girdim ''homosapien kartlaşma dönemi'' Cool

jileti keskinleştirmek yerine
aleti agresifleştirmeyi deneyin

jilet sarf malzemesi sürekli almanız gerekiyor
agrasif makine daha ekonomik ve sadece birkere ödüyorsunuz Smile

normalde pek kesmeyen oldukça sakal bırakan shark ile
futuru beraber kulanınca 2 tıraş sorunsuz idare ediyor

üstadım
black long handle var yeni aldığım ayarlı ''black beauty'' 6,7,8 kademelerde dediğinizi deneyeceğim,ayrıca 37c slantla bir daha shark ve ws deneyeceğim ,sonucu yazarımCool
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